Visit a North London pub at any time during the week, and you’ll see two grown men ferociously bloodying one another’s noses, bellowing profanities about Tottenham and Arsenal. The debate as to which is better will rage until the end of time. Except in the Jonathan Woodgate house.
Word has it that back in January, both teams came begging for his signature, with Wenger very keen to see him bolster the Arsenal defence, but the then-Middlesbrough man was having none of it, and chose to go to White Hart Lane instead. At that point in the season, Arsenal were looking likely champions.
Now Flamini has gone, Hleb is hammering at the exit - is Wenger losing his magical appeal?
70 responses so far
1 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Ah but he did win a Mickey Mouse cup! Shame he didn’t want to play Champions League football.
2 Matt // May 9, 2008 at 1:48 pm
There could be so many reasons - perhaps Wenger couldnt guarantee him a starting place or maybe the medical facilities are better at WHL.
3 Matt // May 9, 2008 at 1:49 pm
And you won what cup this seasin?
4 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I do not believe he was aware of Arsenals interest until the deal was done, so it was not a choice.
5 LouGooner // May 9, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Obviously yes! you guys are all correct! that is why AFC are 3td and THFC are ??
6 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 1:53 pm
The cup that gives a kids a good run out now has unfortunately been down valued to the point of worthlessness and would be even if Arsenal had won it. if it had a champions League place attached maybe it would not be so MM.
7 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I wish Arsene Wenger had pulled his finger out, because the way Woodgate finished the season, Arsenal would have won CL and the League.
8 anon // May 9, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Sounds like sour grapes Darren! It also looks like your kids are going to have to play more now all your first teamers are jumping ship!
9 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 2:00 pm
There was a time… it feels long ago now…. when arsenal didn’t even see us as rivals…. it shows how far down the ladder they’ve come by the way that their fans are saying ‘we’re 3rd, where are you?’….. well, we’re on the up, and we’ll pass you on the way. Anyway, liverpool knocked you out of the Champs league, they’re behind you too….
Arsenal fans… are you happy with 3rd? If you are, great… but hleb, flamini, and Adebayor aren’t and a little bird tells me RVP isn’t either…. so, mr Wenger, when are you going to win something again?
As for us… we’re quite happy to have you all doubt us… we’ll sneak around taking woodgate from under your noses, and snap up the much desired (by wenger especially) Modric… once we’ve spent the rest of our budget, and Ramos (a superior man, and manager to wenger) has his own team… we’ll see who wins what, and what the league looks like.
As a final comment… you’re scum arsenal, no one likes you, and you are falling… falling… falling… and wenger is running out of time.
10 Greg // May 9, 2008 at 2:04 pm
he probably looked at his options and realised he would not have to fight for his place at Tottenham and that’s why he moved there.
11 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Of course Spurs’ defence has noticably improved since he joined. Why do people still view spurs v Arsenal as a rivalry - the lillywhites are barely in the same league - a bottom half team, 34 points behind their superior neighbours. Even if Arsenal have never so far won the CL, they are at least better placed to do so than spurs
12 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Not sour grapes at all I recognise Arsenal missed out on Woodgate and wish they hadn’t. And 1 is not all. We shall see at the end of the summer. The difference between Arsenal and spurs is Champions League football so we shall see who Arsenal get at a good price and who Spurs or Newcastle pay over the odd for because they have nothing to bring to the table.
13 Dixon Bainbridge // May 9, 2008 at 2:06 pm
You goonas seem to think finishing 3rd getting slaughtered in all the cups equates to a ‘great season’ no wonder all your players are jumping ship. I’m still laughing.
14 Gooner4life // May 9, 2008 at 2:08 pm
DANNY…
…Did you cut and paste that message from last season but just changed the names??? Always quick to jump on the bandwagon when there`s the slightest bit of a problem at the Arsenal. What happened to 4th place? I just looked at the league table. You mugs are 34pts behind us. Do you really think you will be better than us next season? As usual your fans are dreaming!
Can`t wait to pick up another 6pts off you next season.
UP THE ARSENAL!
15 James // May 9, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Yeah, Spurs defence is great, instead of shipping 4 goals a game they ship 2 and still lose. Now that Berbatov is going, further mid-table mediocrity beckons.
Carling Cup? Spurs only won it because none of the other teams give a shit. Even Chelsea couldn’t be bothered in the final.
16 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I think Darrens right… we will have to pay over the odds for quality players, thats because of the champions league… absolutely 100% agree. HOWEVER, what makes you think players will beg to be at arsenal? 3rd two years on the spin, rubbish in the champs league? as far as players from abroad are concerned, you may as well be PSV eindhoven.
I think that Liverpool will stay in the top four next year, and spurs will break it… i dont think you need me to say who’s place we’ll be taking.
17 king gooner // May 9, 2008 at 2:12 pm
danny or is that “fanny”-are you on drugs?-what other club would issue a commerative watch for the carling cup-i ask you?how big time is that?-ha!ha!ha!just in case your neanderthal inbred pea brained memory is failing you-the last time you came above us in the league(where it matters)was 16 years ago-were you born???
18 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 2:14 pm
every year spurs tell us it will happen next year but next year comes and it never happens. It wont happen next year. The only player you have who is good enough to get in the Arsenal side is leaving so I think the gap could be over 40 points next season as spurs fight it out with fulham to stay up.
19 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 2:15 pm
gooner4life…. did you copy and paste your sign in name from a primary school childs text book?
I’m willing to listen to all of your rubbish.. and i accept that this year didn’t turn out how most of us yids expected, but neither did yours…. so, im telling you that next year we’ll be a better side than you, and im telling you that based on what i see this season. Not only as a football fan, a season ticket holder, a qualified referee and a level 3 FA coach… but i tell you as someone who thinks on a neutral level, i tell you what i see happening honestly. Thats why i come here to ‘discuss’ not argue, and thats also why i dont have a pathetic sign in name like ‘gooner4life’.
20 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 2:17 pm
You will not break into the top four by selling the best player you have had since Gazza and buying an untested player who will need to settle.So if you want to talk about players leaving because they question the club try Berbatov, he even gave Spurs another year out of the goodness of his heart.
21 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 2:22 pm
king gooner… the leader of all gonners i take it….. hahahhahaha… knob.
You managed to rhyme my name with ‘fanny’… you complete tard.
Why do arsenal insist on talking about history, is it because they arent proud of the present situation? I wont even go in to history, you all know Spurs wipe the floor with Arsenal historically…..
In fact, I want to talk about now.. which is much more difficult as arsenal have hade more success in the last 10-15 years…. but at present, im talking about you being in decline, which i have said for the last 3 years… and you are!! you havent won anything… nor even been involved that much…. so if i were you, i’d stop pretending everything is rosey, because you are slipping fast.
Spurs on the other hand are on the up, and i hope they can achieve champions league football at the expense of the weakest team in the top 4… Arsenal…. i have nothing to worry about as we’re on the up, and fully accept arsenal have a a better team at present. But i dont think that’ll happen for very long, and neither do you, you small minded bovril drinking pikey mess.
22 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 2:22 pm
Danny - we all know refs are blind and you just proved it with your “neutral” view. Everyone can see Arsenal are successfully rebuilding…4th..4th..3rd compared with 4th..4th..11th. It doesnt matter who leaves us Henry, Flamini, Vieira, etc we always finish in top 4 so your wild speculation means nothing. Keep dreaming but it will never happen. Spurs are heading downwards not upwards
23 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 2:23 pm
i agree… we would love to keep berbatov.. but he wants champs league. simple. we’ll replace him, and be as good if not better without…
24 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 2:23 pm
hleb and flamini are amongst your best players… same goes for you.
25 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 2:25 pm
berba wants champions league and knows he wont get it at spurs. Maybe we should sign him except his a tad on the lazy side
26 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 2:25 pm
MattC…. im blind?
we didn’t come 4th, 4th, 11th…. why are arsenal fans all sleeping with each other… its starting to cause breeding problems.
we came 5th, 5th, 11th… another gooner retard writing from his admin desk.
27 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 2:26 pm
maybe you should sign him….
he’s not french…. and he’s not young enough for wenger to bum.
28 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 2:27 pm
oh yes indeed you’re right - it just sounds much better from a spurs fan!! how could i ever have thought spurs would finish in the top 4
29 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Players come to Arsenal to play football, the way they used to go the Spurs in the 80s and 90s. The bonus is Champions League and regularly fighting it out for the League. High profile games and a great Stadium with a regular 60000 crowd now. And Ithing Kevin Keegan was right about the top four, however Arsenal are on the brink of making it or not as they do not have the endless funds to through money at players. Teams like Spurs could end up improving and going broke all at the same time. spend 20 mill on a player and spend 80k a week on hime and he gets crocked or doesnt perform, theycan not afford it.
30 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Darren.. thats where your dyslexic little self is wrong… we can afford it, and we will invest. We arent leeds.
We can happily go and spend £50m thins summer, and still not sell berba (if he wasnt so f**k*ng miserable!!).
31 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Danny I thought you said you came here to discuss not to through cheap insults
32 Rear Gunner // May 9, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Unfortunately it appears that the Spurs board are more ambitious than ours at the moment. Where we hesitate over transfer fees or wage demands they are taking the gamble and picking up some good players at the right stages of their careers.
I would’ve welcomed Woodgate, Hutton and Modric at Arsenal. All would be in, or at least heavily challenging for a spot in the first team.
We’ve had it all our own way in the NLD stakes for a long while now, with Spurs finally having a proper manager in place I fear that is starting to come to an end. I don’t for a minute think that Spurs will overtake us in the league next season, but certainly do expect them to be a lot closer as well as possibly bloodying our noses in the NLD.
33 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 2:34 pm
sorry i didnt mean to be a dyslexic retard - i meant throw
34 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Do not confuse Dyslexia with trying to type on a phone! You sound more bitter than my ex wife, but I guess that what being a ref and a spurs fan does to people.
I would like to see how Spurs balance there books with poor gate income and no CL money. Selling Berba to pay there bills I would think.
35 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 2:39 pm
A good point Rear Gunner but my feeling is that by failing to invest in a new ground spurs might do a leeds by trying to bank-roll their way into 4th. Not that I’d mind if they did a leeds. Its easy to be disappointed with the season we had but the fact that we were up there at all is promising and I believe we will be up there again next year and will come back stronger.
36 Wrighty // May 9, 2008 at 2:39 pm
And you won what cup this seasin?
We won an award that shows we’re not fucktards who can’t spell.
37 Steve // May 9, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Arsenal supports make me laugh, I would rather win ANY cup than just be a player in a losing team. What is the point of playing in everything and winning nothing. Maybe Arsenal supporters think participation is more important than winning. LOSERS
38 Robin // May 9, 2008 at 2:42 pm
What’s all this about Spurs catching Arsenal? Two seasons ago you finished two points behind them, now you’re 34 points behind them!
Maybe you should concentrate on finishing above West Ham and in the top half next season before you plot your next assault on the Champions League…look how badly this one turned out!
39 Cockney Red // May 9, 2008 at 2:43 pm
MattC re: “Berba wants champions league and knows he wont get it at spurs. Maybe we should sign him except his a tad on the lazy side”
I think you’ll find Berbatov has said that wants to go to a club who can WIN the Champions League….. So that rules out the clubs who merely make up the numbers - such as PSV Eindhoven, Rosenborg, Fenerbace, Olympiakos and, of course, Arsenal.
Leave the big players to the big clubs such as us, Real Madrid and Barcelona and you just keep concentrating on French youth players and that history book writing 4th place ;o)
40 Robin // May 9, 2008 at 2:45 pm
I’m no Arsenal fan but if you put the words Cockney and Red next to one another, you lose a lot of credit.
41 Dave S // May 9, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Danny you refer to others as knobs, ‘tards etc and preach yet ultimately your arguments which is what they are not discussions which are based on entertaining the other persons view. You mock someone for saying you finished 4th 4th 11th, yet you yourself say finishing 3rd 2 years running which we didn’t. So before setting our facts straight check you own. You then mock admin workers, though myself I am not one. I’d prefer to have admin workers on here than people on the dole pissing my tax money down the drain. Can’t mock people for an honest days graft!
Also on the way up? Be realistic your 30 points worse off roughly than last season which is more than a blip. All your signings have failed to deliver as you hoped they would and barring Gareth Bale who I think will be a quality player if he stays clear of injuries none show much hope of turning there games around.
You also say about the ability to spend £50 mil well how long will that last once you start on your new stadia? Though having links with the banks you can probably get some better interest rates than us your still going to develop some debts which will demand eufa cup football minimum…and can you guarantee this?
Finally Arsenal heading backwards? Well agreed we are below Man utd and Chelsea but lets be honest without Abramovich, Tottenham would be above Chelsea so theirs is something of a false rise which I doubt would have happened without him.
You will probably try to tear apart what I’ve written. Which is your choice as after all most of my writing is opinionated much like your “neutral view” but I believe in my opion that our future is bright and we will continue to be successful, can you honestly say the same?
42 Rear Gunner // May 9, 2008 at 2:51 pm
“I would like to see how Spurs balance there books with poor gate income and no CL money. Selling Berba to pay there bills I would think.”
Spurs’ accounts are open for all to see. We may not like it, but they are actually a fantastically run club. They balance their books by having extortionate ticket prices (we know how that feels!) a large corporate income, a larger shirt and kit sponsorship deal than even we have in place and also a FAR lower wage bill than the one that we operate at Arsenal.
“A good point Rear Gunner but my feeling is that by failing to invest in a new ground spurs might do a leeds by trying to bank-roll their way into 4th.”
Unfortunately for us they are nothing like Leeds. Leeds were borrowing heavily to fund their spending whereas Spurs are only spending money that is generated from operational profit. They have a wage bill that is set to 50% of their turnover and no real debt to service which leaves them a sizeable transfer fund every year. In addition to this they generally purchase promising young players to ensure that they are able to sell on at a profit (or at least no loss) to generate further funds.
Also since they were so badly burnt with Sol Campbell’s defection to us they are very smart with their player contracts, moving on anyone who is likely to go into the last two years of their contract (perhaps we could learn a lesson here!) hence the sale of Carrick and probable sale of Berbatov.
43 Cockney Red // May 9, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Robin…. What team do you support and why? I started following football in the very early eighties when I was about 4 years old. The school I went to in East London was probably around 75% Spurs and they were a very successful and glamourous club back then, as well as being probably the closest top division club to where I lived. But with both my parents being from Salford and being staunch Reds I didn’t really have much choice in the matter of who I supported.
44 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I would like to see how Spurs balance their books in the future. With poor gate income (not building a stadium) and no CL. Plus signing new players with larger wage bill just to break into the top 4. Selling Berba to pay for Modric and other wanted by Chelsea so requiring 80K plus a week, Sorry for the lack of explanation just implecation.
45 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 2:59 pm
darren… more bitter than your ex wife? erm… you still thinking about her? dont tell me, she ran off with a spurs fan?
Rear gunner… i’d like to discuss with you… you seem to have an air of honesty about you, and willingness to debate and concede that not everything is rosey.
Perry groves… someone who Mattc would love to have man love with…. just said that whoever is doing contracts at arsenal needs a kick up the bum, and that wenger is losing his draw. What do you think of that? dont attack me gooners, a gooner said that, not me.
46 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 3:02 pm
The battle to get to top four could make or break any club now. with agents touting players every two years around Europe. It would appear that Chelsea once again want to buy every player, this doubles the value. I am just glad neither Chelsea or Man U want a centre back!
47 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 3:08 pm
If she left then how would she be the bitter one?
Flamini left because he doesn’t do contract signing. That is why Arsenal go him in the first place. They should have sold him two years ago but he was not worth anything, his value has only really gone up this year. probably to secure a good contract (COMMON SENSE).
48 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Dave S… i actually enjoyed reading that, and must say, i think i have been drawn by the less intelligent comments made by idiots on this blog… fair. I would like to point out at this point that im not unemployed, but own and run a succesful medium sized business.
As for satadiums, we own ours outright… most, if not all of the funds for our stadium will come from the sale of that, not from german banks. If we decide to stay, then we have more than adequate funding to redevelop.
I’m not gonna continue to justify us being on the up.. i will let you know, that i honestly believe that….
As for being on the downwards scale at arsenal…. hmmmm….. should i really continue that debate, you think you’ll ‘turn it around’, and i think you havent won anything in four years, and your players are jumping ship. Dont get me wrong, it’ll be close, but im pretty sure that tactically, ramos has the edge preparing for next year.
This year is a crap season, almost like yours when you got ahead of us for 4th on the last day, and you promised it was a transitional season… it is for us too, we have changed managers, and he hasnt had the chance to get his own squad… Wengers had a long time to win the champs league, and 4 years at least to win the league again. Thats a very long transition.
49 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 3:10 pm
yes danny we can all see that the only debate you like is one with the word mass in front of it. Who care what Perry Groves thinks, your still in 11th place, the 4th best team in london & 34 points behind a team you think are shit
50 Yiddo Rob // May 9, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Might be playing CL but still didnt win anything. Mickey Mouse or not im sure its silver !!!
51 Rear Gunner // May 9, 2008 at 3:11 pm
DaveS - there are a few things you should consider here that you have either ignored or perhaps don’t want to admit to yourself.
Firstly the Spurs ground is unlikely to be anywhere near as complicated a project as our own Emirates stadium. Spurs have paid £2 million for a two year option to purchase the Wingate Trading Estate for £17 million. This estate lies just the other side of Paxton Road, literally a stones throw from the existing ground. So the construction of a new stadium for Spurs would be a relatively straightforward project involving a simple demolition of some single storey warehouses and the build of the new ground. This is likely to mean a far lower cost for Spurs’ new stadium compared to our one (I would imagine they won’t bother with going for the same quality either and will instead just try to maximise capacity for minimum cost). Financed properly over the right period a new ground should INCREASE income and profitability not reduce it.
Secondly it is reasonably obvious why Spurs are 30 points worse off compared to the previous season and that is due to the start they had under Jol and then the obvious ‘cooling off’ under Ramos since their season was effectively over after their Carling Cup win. Didn’t you think that in the league game at our place as well as the two Cup Semis that Ramos’ Spurs showed that they were more than able to compete?
I would also say that Hutton and Woodgate have proved to be very good signings for them in addition to Gareth Bale as you mentioned. If you look at Spurs’ team objectively they currently have Hutton, Woodgate, King, Bale, Lennon, Jenas, Modric, Berbatov and Keane who are all top class players, I don’t think that leaves them with too many spare parts to find this Summer - especially with squad players like Chimbonda, Dawson, Gilberto, Huddlestone, Malbranque and Bent who are good enough for the bench at Premiership level.
They will be a lot closer to us next year I feel, still not surpassing us, but closer nonetheless.
52 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Flamini is leaving…. you want to keep him.
Lets not make bones, it wont be the end of arsenal. i just think it’s indicative to arsenals situation.
The title of this discussion is if Wenger is losing his appeal.
53 Danny // May 9, 2008 at 3:13 pm
MattC… i dont think arsenal are shit, i think you play fab football. I’ve never said that.
Good coment though…. very absorbing.
54 coys // May 9, 2008 at 3:15 pm
sayin well be relagated is ajoke ..arse wuite happy tofight out for 3rd an 4th place every years……great team to win nothin…..go watch yer ladies they win somethng….yes we 34 points beind ye but was yer season a success…..we one a cup for a mid table team an beat a top team in chelsea…plus any one say not intertse din cc final is not a fan ddi u see chel players when we out played them an beat arse ..come one arse knows this was a bad seaon an well be better next seas there runnin scared under neath. coys watch this space to dare is to do
55 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 3:19 pm
coys - eh? i’m sure you make some good points but for the life of me I dont understand a word you’re saying!
56 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Answer Arsenal and Wenger are able to compete for any player in footballing terms and appeal, however as far as money is concerned then soem players would rather play for other teams earning large salaries for sitting on the bench. SWP eg. As long as Arsenal have Wenger they will have a great man manager and motivator but not a contract haggler.
57 Rear Gunner // May 9, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Darren - in the sake of SWP it was nothing to do with what he would rather do.
He had only one option open to him (besides staying at Man City) and that was to go to Chelsea as it was only Chelsea who were prepared to pay the transfer fee that Man City demanded for him. We were only prepared to go to HALF of that transfer fee.
58 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 3:31 pm
and quite rightly Rear Gunner - theres no way SWP was worth what Chelsea paid for him
59 Darren // May 9, 2008 at 3:35 pm
That was the whole point. He would have come to Arsenal to play football The point is in footballing terms Arsenal are light years ahead but its money that holds them back in the market. So no Wenger has not lost his appeal, players and agents are not putting football first, its all about the money.
60 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Darren - I agree and although Flamini did well for us, AC Milan must have more money than sense. Wenger keeps finding these players and for every Flamini theres a Clichy or Sagna waiting in the wings. I think Wenger is to be applauded in his approach to the game. Man U, Liverpool & Chelsea just want to play chequebook football but Wenger wont do it and well done to him.
61 Upminster Iron // May 9, 2008 at 3:57 pm
I can’t imagine Wenger actually trying to sign an English defender and if he did it should have been Upson.
Biggest mistake he’s made in my opinion - Upson is just behind Rio as the best defender in the country and is miles ahead of Senderos, Song, Gallas and even Toure given how he’s been playing recently!
62 Rear Gunner // May 9, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Darren - light years ahead of Chelsea? The last few years certainly haven’t suggested that have they? Granted they are a rich man’s plaything but that doesn’t make Chelsea any less attractive to potential signings. Offered equivalent money at our place or theirs you might actually be suprised at how many players would choose Chelsea due to the increased likelyhood of winning the major trophies.
63 Dev // May 9, 2008 at 4:17 pm
You gooners wish you had Woodgate. Hes a Yido.
You scum wish you had silverwear. We battered you 5-1.
Should of been 8-1 but I guess we’ll have to do this next year when the PERFECT one and the real Professor gets more players teogther
Like how Modric also rejected you to sign for us.
Hahahhahahaahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah
Hleb and Flamini gone cause of no silverwear.
CAN U HEAR THE ARSENAL SING????????
SHHHHHHHHHHHH HIGHBURY IS A LIBARY
GOONER SCUM
64 JC // May 9, 2008 at 5:01 pm
To the last comment ,mate i think you mispelled your name, it should have been an I instead of an E.
I Tell you what, ill give any of you spuds the same deal i give to my pal every season, thats £10 a point! let me tell you, he falls for it every time, last season he wanted to double the stakes, but i have actually started feeling sorry for him, and refused the offer, although ive got my eye on this lovely merc sports! so come all you mugs from shite hart pain put your money where your mouths are lol.
65 andy // May 9, 2008 at 5:27 pm
ALL YOU ARSEH***S FANS ARE BITTER AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS CUP AND WE STILL BEAT YOU 5-1 . SOUR GRAPES I THINK?
66 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 10:55 pm
JC - I have the same bet every year and have earned a tidy sum in that time. Easy Money. I have no doubts I will be earning similarly next season.
“I can’t imagine Wenger actually trying to sign an English defender and if he did it should have been Upson” - I cant imagine that you’re so ignorant when it was Wenger who discovered him and also discovered what an injury prone and overrated player he is.
Div - its all very well bragging about how an overrated player who we didnt bid for rejected us but perhaps you want to brag about being a bottom half team trailing behind your superior neighbours by 34 points
67 MattC // May 9, 2008 at 10:56 pm
modric - £20m lol
68 kkkkkkkk // May 10, 2008 at 1:32 am
Arsenal in decline ? Van Persie was out for 5 months, Rosicky has been out for 14 weeks, Diaby was out for 10 weeks, Eduardo has been out for 10 weeks. We have gone from 68 points to 80 points and counting. We are going to buy 2 expirienced players in the summer. Hleb is not going anywhere. Even if he goes, he can be replaced. The core of the team are gooners. Fabregas, Toure, Gallas (yes! he is a gooner), RVP, Ade. Eduardo is better than Berbatov and he is our 3rd choice striker. You have Modric but we have Fabregas, Rosicky, Hleb and the expirienced creative player Wenger said he is bringing. Stop emarrasing yourselves. Do the talking on the pitch. We are 4 points off the top. We have closed the gap from 21 points last season to 4 points this season. If you think we are going to get worse next then good luck to you. ciao
69 P // May 10, 2008 at 4:59 am
Perhaps Arsenal were interested in Woodgate but you do not know the terms Arsenal offered and I would guess Spuds did not inlcude any kind of injury waiver for wages whereas Arsenal might have. Still rate him (Performance aganist Lazio for Leeds one of the finest I have seen) but his cost and wages probably do not merit a player who will only play less than half a season.
70 D K // May 11, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Wenger never wanted him. It was a rumour started by a spurs fan.