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Americans remain humble follwing Confederations Cup victory over Spain

June 25th, 2009 · 18 Comments

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The San Francisco Chronicle’s Alan Black talks down the potential of Team USA…

“What we saw today was a foreshadowing. At some point in the future, the USA will be the best soccer team in the world, and win the World Cup. That will be the day when an extra star could be added to the flag, the star of the ‘international’ state.”

[Video highlights of the surprise 2-0 win over Spain here]

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Posted: June 25th, 2009 by Ryan Bailey



18 responses so far

  • 1 shay // Jun 25, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Um, yeah I am American and even I don’t believe that crap. They did something amazing, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

  • 2 David // Jun 25, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    Please don’t refer to anyone from San Francisco who talks about US “soccer” as an American. Thanks.

  • 3 Ryan // Jun 25, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    I’m irritated by people who take cheap shots at America, but I’m irritated even more by people like this writer who make it so damn easy to do so!

    Still, that was a fantastic win yesterday…maybe we could even get quarterfinals again in 2010 if we get a good draw.

  • 4 anthony // Jun 25, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    they may as well add a chocolate star for when brasil shits on their head in the final.

    don’t get mad at me yanks. it’s science.

  • 5 Sofie // Jun 25, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    hahaha, that comment is such a classic bit of American sports writing, making everybody seem like a hero that won a World War….if they do win the world cup, it will be in 2098

  • 6 pete // Jun 26, 2009 at 12:20 am

    boca negro played good soccer again

  • 7 Bokolis // Jun 26, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    I predicted (back in 1998) that the US would win a WC before England would win another. It’s not that the Americans are much closer. It’s that you Brits will never win another. The game, like history, is passing you by. You’ll have to be content with buying yourselves the best league in the world.

    I don’t put too much stock in this tournament, but it’s still nice to know that, even if we got something less than their best, USA can beat the best team in the world.

  • 8 David Allison // Jun 26, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    Ah, Bokolis… the classic American mistake of thinking Britain is England and vice-versa…

  • 9 David // Jun 26, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    I’ll pick up Bokolis’ pieces for you, David. I agree with him that the US will win before England… or the rest of Britain for that matter.

    What I love about you guys is that you never support your own national team. You only shit on it, or shit on others like you’re doing now because of you’re inferiority towards the rest of the footballing world now.

  • 10 Bokolis // Jun 26, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    Like I tell any Korean who corrects me after I call him Chinese, same shit!

  • 11 David Allison // Jun 27, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    David - beat Brazil tomorrow and I might just believe the two of you…

    And what I hate about most people - whatever nationality - is their sweeping generalisation of other cultures and countries. Your opinion is based on the shite that our tabloids spew up on a daily basis. There are a few people (not many, I’ll agree) in this country who believe in our national side, and I’m one of them.

    Maybe you’d like to pick up the pieces of Bokolis’ latest offering… I’m all ears.

  • 12 David // Jun 28, 2009 at 1:47 am

    So beat Brazil to prove that the US can succeed? I don’t see the relevance, honestly.

    It has nothing to do with your papers and tabloids. I lived in the U.K., London specifically, and found an abundance of football fans obviously. But very few seemed to have anything positive about their countries national team, and this was under Capello!

    Whatever, the point is that however “American” it may be, I think we’ll always believe we can beat anyone on any day. And right now they’re proving just that. We could win tomorrow, or we could lose. You can write all the stories and predictions with stats that you want. But in the end that’s the simple and dumbed down scenarios. Just like with Spain, we’ll see what happens.

  • 13 David Allison // Jun 28, 2009 at 10:50 am

    The relevance is beating two world-beating teams in succession in a tournament - much like you would need to do in a World Cup, but you would need to do this three times and not twice. Fairly relevant you would think.

    Whilst I agree with your point about unearthing stats, you really have to take note of history when the World Cup comes into question. I admire your optimism, but since England won the World Cup there’s been only 5 different winners; Brazil, Germany, Italy, France, Argentina. Semi-finalists since then? Add only Holland to that list. The USA have a LONG way to go before bucking that trend.

    Whatever your source regarding ‘our guys’, however, please don’t accuse me of talking badly or not supporting my national team. You may have experienced a high concentration of this, but you can’t speak about all of us that way cos it just aint true.

  • 14 chris // Jun 29, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    i mean, the writer was a little obnoxious but his i think his general idea is spot-on. the us WILL win a world cup in our lifetime (i dont know about this extra star nonsense). all these people will be proven wrong. this victory over spain doesn’t mean we’re going to win the next world cup, but the writer is correct in that it is ‘foreshadowing’. it’s not about the confederations cup, this is about the FUTURE - and this result certainly bodes well for that…

    vote on whether you think the usa will win a world cup in our lifetime here:

    http://thebleacherbums.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/usa-2-spain-0-a-sign-of-things-to-come/

  • 15 Andrew Appleyard // Jun 29, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    David Allison,
    Nice post mate I assume you are a English man of young years and are not quite old enough to remember England reaching the Semi Final in Italy 1990? I do we went out on penalties to the Germans who won the tournament. Can honestly say cant remember which team played better so many beers were drunk but I do remember that they got their only goal of the game through the biggest fluke I ever seem to remember in a footie match.

    England knocked out by the winners of the 86 WC Argentina (Fecking Cheats), 90 Germany (See above) and 02 Brazil.

    Thingk there is some silly connection that when Brazil have won all there World Cups they have knocked England out and same is true for our only win, I know this holds true for 66,70 &02. It might just be playing each other in the tournament though.

    Lot more teams have made the SF then you think David since 66.
    Uruguay 1970 SF
    Poland 1974 finished 3rd though no real semi final match, 2 group winners played each other in the final.
    Poland SF in 82 finished 3rd again.
    Belgium SF 86
    Bulgaria & Sweden SF 94
    Croatia SF 98
    Turkey & Korea SF 02
    Portugal 06

  • 16 anton // Jun 29, 2009 at 2:13 pm

    maybe the US should do what everyone else does and nationalise some brasilians to play for them…ala Eduardo.

  • 17 David Allison // Jun 29, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Yikes - just realised that should have read ‘Runners-up since then’ not ‘Semi-finalists since then’… I’m not so young, Andrew; I just fall foul of typos easily ;)

  • 18 Ryan // Jun 29, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Already there with the Brazilians…Feilhaber, the midfielder that replaced Michael Bradley yesterday against Brazil, is a naturalised Brazilian. He’s not fantastic, though, so he’s far from our own Eduardo. Give it time, though…we are, after all, the land of opportunity and immigration ;-)

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